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@Zincy
Nuked off screen now they are raiders,

@Dustcan
No, f*ck them, all the years all the happy memories are tainted because they can’t help but hate that LGBT people liked the series. I hope they crash and burn and every f*cking bury your gays writer there ends up destitute and replaced by AI

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Can I get sauce, extra spicy? ’cause all I can find on the matter is this article.

“I think [queerness] embedded into the DNA of the franchise from the beginning and hopefully the show,” Nolan tells PRIDE. “I think it’s one of the things that I found so exciting about the games when I played them. My first experience with the franchise, Fallout 3, was the fact that [the games] felt alive, subversive, and satirical, that you had a real sense, that there was nothing safe or restrained about these things, that they felt that they had the texture of the world with them. We’ve endeavored to try to bring all of that feeling, all of that tone with us into the series.”

It was also front of mind for Wagner, who said there were discussions on how to incorporate queerness into the show. “We talked about a lot of topical stuff [in the writer’s room] like where’s racism in this world? Where’s queerness in this world?” he recalls to PRIDE. Wagner admits he had concerns about doing the storylines justice. “I struggled with it a bit as a straight white dude… we’re in this great moment where there is finally money to tell queer stories. It’s not my money. Those are stories for queer storytellers to tell. I sometimes feel a little gun-shy about tackling those issues, because I know that there is a market for that, it belongs to my fellow writers who are from that demographic, and who can do a better job of it than me. But maybe that’s a cowardly approach. I’m not sure… it’s part of their conversation in the room every day,” he admits.

Again I’m about to watch the second episode so maybe opinions will change, but it sounds like representation simply wasn’t included rather than overt phobia. That sounds like the show is neutral on the subject more than anything; it ain’t getting brownie points for inclusion but it ain’t getting dirt points for rejecting it either.

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“Bethesda secretly f*cking despises New Vegas and foams at the mouth at its existence” is a really dumb conspiracy pushed by really annoying New Vegas fans, as I’ve discovered

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@Dustcan
Excluding a f*cking group that important to the franchise especially after the bullsh*t they pull in the games is enough for me, I’m sick of being thrown scraps and told to cheer and praise them for it,

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teenage mutant ninja turtles: the last ronin is getting live action r-rated movie

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i’m just finishing up episode 4 of the fallout show and so far it’s a pretty amazing adaptation.

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@Angrybrony
Yeah great show super innovative how we went from be grateful for bad representation to be grateful for none, f*ck this show,

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Too losely paraphrase Warrick Davis with little people, “who elected you king of the gays”?

Not everything needs to have representations of us.

I don’t look for queer folk in every show/movie/game.

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@Thanotos Omega
chill? hows about you chill? maybe don’t yell at the bi guy about rep?

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@Zincy
It’s one thing to not include us in a show based on a franchise we are deeply involved in,

it’s another to do so after the sh*t show that was 4 trying to dial back queer rep to a few dead people one abusive couple and sh*tty everyone is bi romances, then to say you think straight characters are just as good as representing the LGBT fans as LGBT characters would because you want to court neo fascists,

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What was bad about Fallout’s LGBT representation? It didn’t have much of it, sure, but the characters that were there was well rounded enough and not just a collection of stereotypes.

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@Dustcan
Sure when it wasn’t Bethesda doing it, 3 had just a few lines like female PC saying she was dreaming about Amata, and getting called gross for it, and 4 has only buried gays one couple which features a huge asshole only using her partner for her lab, and the sh*tty romances, and all the issues that the game having clearly been written for Nate like having Piper resemble default Nora ECT,

Skyrim only had the romances again sh*t ones, and some dead dudes in the last expansion, before that Bethesda’s only LGBT character was a sex pest bisexual stereotype who forces you to strip for him and give him a kiss to get promoted, Vivec who also banned hom*osexuality and the f*cking god of rape,

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Seen 1st and 2nd episode of Fallout. Fallout show good.

How did Titus even become a knight? He sucks at it.

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Okay but that last one isn’t meant to be portrayed in a positive light. The Tribunal are very much depicted as in the wrong, and Morrowind gives you plenty of hints that Vivec is sus as f*ck.

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One of the 36 Sermons of Vivec is basically a smutfic of him having feral gay sex with Molag Bal.

Him being sus on the topic of…any kind of sexuality is very apt.

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Don’t forget about the Mpreg part of that.

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That was actully a pretty…rad season.

Bethesda hates NV so much its the last thing you see this season…

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@Zincy
I feel like your only helping my argument here, Bethesda has consistently lagged behind the norms for these kinds of things, f*ck man like they still release games where being from a different ethnicity is like being a lizard person,

And they act pissy anytime they get called out on it, like just pointing out that the west coast BOS has hom*ophobic beliefs sets them off, even though they changed the east coast into tue enclave 2.0 fascism boogaloo,

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The Argonians aren’t the only ones indicative of a “different ethnicity” given that the Red Guards and Khajiit exist, being analogous to Africans and middle eastern respectively.

And the various flavors of elf borrowing from a variety of earthly cultures. And the the discount Britonians that just decided to cut out the middleman and f*ck the elves directly.

Or how about when the Argonians went nuclear and wrecked the ever loving f*ck out of the people that enslaved them.

It is utterly impossible to make a non-human race without borrowing from some element of human culture.

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@Zincy
Not my point there if I wanted to make that point it would be that the kahjiit are terrible Romani and Arab stereotypes with comedic Arab accents,

My point was that being from a different ethnicity is treated the same as if you were a lizard person,

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@Angrybrony
Do you Radaway/Rad-X for how rad it was?

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3 eps in and my biggest complaint is that the show assumes you are already a fan.

There’s some other gripes but narratively the show doesn’t really explain the setting.

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